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A Virtual Music Studio in Your Pocket: Griff v1.0 Reviewed

 
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daniel



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:07 am    Post subject: A Virtual Music Studio in Your Pocket: Griff v1.0 Reviewed Reply with quote



Premier PocketPC news site PocketPCThoughts has completed a comprehensive review of Griff: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172434

Favorite quotes:

mSyn:
"Speaking of useful sounds, the quality of sound output by mSyn is absolutely superb. It has enough tweakable controls to generate everything from deep basses through to swishy, buzzy or squelchy leads."

Effects:
"Griff also comes with a number of built-in effects, including Delay, Reverb, Chorus and Flanger. All of these are presented on screens which are nothing less than works of art and an exercise in minimalist simplicity, providing just the bare essentials necessary to convert the raw instrument outputs into awe-inspiring towers of sound."

Conclusion:
"So overall I highly recommend Griff if you're serious about making music on the go, and would even go so far as to say it's the best music creation tool for the Pocket PC so far. "

Many thanks to Tim Allen (..So I rewired it...) and PocketPCThoughts for the review.
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Lazarus



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:55 am    Post subject: Well, I'm impressed - will it run on this?... Reply with quote

http://www.brighthand.com/article/RumorMill_Toshiba_e805_e405_Later_Today

It's 640 x 480 screen would severely tempt me to take
PDA music seriously but would Griff take advantage
of this extra screen space or would one have to run
it in it's QVGA legacy mode?

Cheers,
Laz (myopic muso)
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daniel



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but would Griff take advantage
of this extra screen space or would one have to run
it in it's QVGA legacy mode?


Yes Griff can, but the skins will have to be modified to take advantage.

The most important area will be the song, section pattern and parameter editor, along with the mixer.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:26 pm    Post subject: e805 Reply with quote

Hello

Yes, i'm also interested in this new Toshiba e805 as it apparently has an external mic input and full duplex sound capability ( so it can be used as an internet telephone,etc.)

this suggests some interesting audio possibilities .Nice vga screen also.

would these effects plugins be able to be used in realtime and what kind of latency could we expect , if in fact this is the case?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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would these effects plugins be able to be used in realtime and what kind of latency could we expect , if in fact this is the case?


Realtime is not a possibility.

There is very little audio hardware for any platform that has a low enough latency to do realtime input -> effect -> output.

Your best bet for this is some seriously wicked card (eg: RME), a PC or Mac and ASIO. Latency for this could be as low as 10ms which is low enough for most not to notice.

The PocketPC's I know of have an output latency of > 40ms. Assuming an input latency of similar + any latency the app adds and you're in the 100ms+ ballpark which even a drunk would notice.

It will be nice when PocketPC's sport ultra low latency audio hardware, and ASIO or directX is supported. Then there would be a point in a realtime app.

The audio input would be good for recording samples however, assuming the quality was half way decent.

And the extra screen real-estate is always welcome.
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